well i hope i wasnt over stepping my bounds,even though its an open topic..you wouldnt believe what people will pay to not be detected..the sadest part is..is that its actually a buisness to stay ahead of the cheat detecting programs,and create better hacks allll the time,and people actually pay it..the good news is latley steam and valve have been ahead of the game..bad news is the competition will never stop when its a marketable buisness with people paying anywhere from 40 to 90 dollars a month for hacks....heck in cod4 they stopped buying hacks,and strted learning how to peel layers of graphics out of the game.taking away smoke,fog,mist,foliage and such...and we are slowly catching up with them...2 people were banned from the cod4 t.c.c league last season for peeling layers away..so no matter what game its allways going to happen..and for as long as ive been playing on your servers,even with the occaisional how did he do that .or he is hacking..i hope you have come to trust that i dont,and never would...im one of the good guys through and through